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Curse You · Feb 18, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

If no one ever gave criticism, things would almost never change. Without criticism, it is very hard to know what needs improvement. Criticism is as much a part of life as praise.

Redfeather1975 · Feb 18, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50

If anyone isn't happy here they should leave and play the other online rpg games with monthly fees. Enjoy how awesome it is to pay monthly fees and see little to no events like these. Also they'd get a taste of the real letdowns and grinding that some people claim Guild Wars has.

Sujoy · Feb 18, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50

well back on topic...

seems to me that the OP is upset to have spent 60k to reach his goal(owning a pig), and that he has reached, so the 60k wasnt wasted

Oblivion, you were bent on getting that pig and you got it, be happy. Unlike you, I on the other hand was willing to wait after the event ends and wait for the price to go down. So you got your pig before me, but I got it for a much lesser price, that of being AFK in a complete event district

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EDIT : All good MMOs have monthly fees (sigh)... *clicks GW.exe on desktop*

SerenitySilverstar · Feb 18, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

There's a difference between constructive criticism and plain outright bitching and raging.

Some people just can't handle being told to pull their heads in. If you're going to argue with constructive criticism, fine. If you're going call a person's mother out, it's not.

Welcome to my world of brutal honesty. I'm sick of pussyfooting round the "anonymity" of the internet. (Curse, that's not directed at you - you have a point. It's directed at the people spoiling for a fight and pushing their agendas)

Zinger314 · Feb 18, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

If anyone isn't happy here they should leave and play the other online rpg games with monthly fees. Enjoy how awesome it is to pay monthly fees and see little to no events like these. Also they'd get a taste of the real letdowns and grinding that some people claim Guild Wars has.

I recommend you don't click this link if you don't like World of Warcraft. They even have Veteran's Day!

Also, SerenitySilverstar, I'm not trying to pick an argument with you; you do a good job of that yourself.

Crazyvietguy · Feb 18, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

To be competely honest, this event was "meh" for me. I thought the beetle racing was fantastic and should be kept. However, It was creative.

Now for the Pig flaming.. To be honest I had around 280 fortunes and didnt get a single pig. YET other people open 30ish fortunes and get a pig. The reason they put the Pigs at the end is because the fortune opening is completely random and.. rare to say the least. It would have been truely UNFAIR if they didnt give pigs at the finale. AND for you people who are mad because you bought a pig from someone previously, well you are just dumb. Buying event items (especially rare ones such as these) before the event is over isn't bright as they tend to decrease in price when more people get them making them the least amount directly after the event.

So if you lost money on this event, its because you screwed up, not Anet.
Also.. Sai of Winter's avatar is amazing

Oblivion Odyssey · Feb 18, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Sven788

Totally Agree with Feme Assasin, and the thread starter get a life it's a game not your life.

Man that is just pathetic seriously it is. You're telling me to get a life on a forum dedicated to a computer game that you obviously play about and care about as well? By your definition every complaint here means the person making it doesn't have a life? Shame on you.

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Awwww, pure widdle OP bought a pig for 30k and got owned afterwards!

Now this is sheer stupidity, firstly when did I ever say I bought a pig for 30k? You're completely missing the point of this discussion and would be well advised to shut up.

To all those saying we must not criticise anything I challenge you to get through life without criticising anything. Criticism is all about opinion and discussion, and it really is the only way to change something you want changed. I'm so sick of this you can't criticise Anet crap. I bet they even want criticism because it is THE ONLY WAY to forward a game and to learn from player's opinions.

So many people here are missing the point completely, but at least I've created a spirited debate, which is what I want. I just need to learn to ignore the complete bs some people are saying.

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MOAN, MOAN, MOAN, MOAN.

OMG. Seriously. Are you people ever happy?

If you have nothing better to do than complain then go find another game to play.

This event was awesome. ArenaNet staff put what I can only imagine were many, many hours in to the development of the event and the thanks they get are the usual moans from the usual suspects.

Get off your high horses. If you don't have something nice to say then try keep it to yourselves for once

Pure rubbish, this game will go NOWHERE if there is not criticism, if these forums were filled with people like you claiming Anet are untouchable and ever so righteous and everything they touch turn to gold then there would be no improvement. Get off YOUR high horse.

Mr_T_bot · Feb 18, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Free = No Cost

No Event = Customers Leave Game

Customers Leave Game = ArenaNet Makes Less Money In Future Expansions

ArenaNet Makes Less Money In Future Expansions = Cost

Therefore, if Free = ~Cost...

Free ~ No(No Event)

Free = ~(Event)

Not Free = Event

Transverse logic.

You should've stopped at Free =~Cost because your logic sucks there on out.

Skyy High · Feb 18, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

There are two sides to this. People who like to make money off of festivals are mad because there really isn't much to this except random silliness and the occasional sweet for the title. IE, the well-off, the rich, and for the most part the people who like visiting forums the most.

On the other side, we have the player who never even thinks of the lucrative side of festivals, and is just here to have fun. This was HIS festival. Wintersday was ripe with moneymaking opportunities (and ways to take advantage of the "fun only" players); imo, we should let these players have their fun every now and then, and not worry about making hundreds of plat every holiday.

Now, the main problem I have with this event was the fact that fortunes dropped pigs AT ALL. They should have never done that; that would have let all the rich people know right away that they were just for fun, and EVERYONE would have just gotten a nice surprise of a mini piggy at the festival end. Would have made for a nice ending I think.

So, if anyone from ANet reads this: in the future, if you're going to give us a common but really nice present other than a mask at a festival, please don't do the tantalizing thing by making it show up in rare circumstances beforehand. It just leads to price hiking, followed by a crash, which can really hurt some players' fortunes and make people mad.

Evilsod · Feb 18, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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My god, they put alot of work into it and you call it trash? The questing in Shing Jea Island again was fun for me, I didn't feel like I got enough to do over there compared to Istan Isle.

The RollerBeetle racing had issues, but it wasn't totally bad. The main problem was the LACK OF GAMER POINTS. I asked Gaile about them the Sunday before this and she said "There will be oppurtunities for Gamer skills" (check chat log).

This proves not only that Anet doesn't even know their own titles but the fact they made it an impossible grind AND DIDN'T FIX IT DURING THE EVENT... WTF

Who cares about the gamer points... At least they're giving you some. Even if it is a stupidly small amount.

Personally i'd rather they spent more time altering the pathetic excuse for an Attributes bar and the abysmal 'improvement' to the Templates menu.

silyrinth · Feb 18, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Seeing as how people who did spend all that time on a mini-pig kind of got gyped out of the time spent since they could have gone ingredient farming instead, the least A-net could do is let players sell the fireworks they got out of Lunar Fortunes at the merchant.

Meo Yeong · Feb 18, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Overall I was happy with the event except a couple minor things. I fail to see though any of the issues the author of the thread specified. I took 4 characters thru all the quests to get tokens and did the bags and got like 6 gold pigs without even having to buy anything off anyone. The rockets and such are just plain fun which is what a festival is about. festivals are not about getting items (example peppermint candy canes) and getting all rich off them.

Now the issue I did have. For the end finale they should have made it so that not everyone got a mini pig if the chefs made all their dishes. It should have been based off those who handed in items got rewarded since afkers and leechers did nothing. If you handed in enough for one to four chef course you get a mini pig. If you did all 5 courses something better like a mini pet that looked like the celestial pig or something that just establishes that you worked and got all ingredients.

My rating of festival is 7 out of 10.

was still fun though and I have to say it gave my guild something to do for farming ingredients.

Lamont Shadow · Feb 18, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

i'm still wondering if there was a glitch

i can't believe Anet would release a gold pet that seemed to spawn quite a bit, then completely or almost completely withdraw it and then dump a bunch on the market

I have also noticed there was no drink that turned us into something but that we became pigs if no meals were made.

Also, the pigs had a special graphics when you found one in a fortune

so here is what it think happened -

instead of pigs in fortunes we were supposed to get a drink that turned us into pigs - like the candy corn and elf tonics (initially pigs seemed to spawn about as often as cany dorn and elf tonics did)- and the pigs were to be given out at the end - but a glitch made fortunes give pigs instead.

They caught it and withdrew the pigs - which drove up the price.- but weren't able to put the tonic or whatever it was back in.

when people complained and prices skyrocketed, they put back the pigs in fortunes for a while last night - afterall, what did it matter since they were going to be given out at the end anyway, to get he price back down - and that is why fortunes were suddenly giving pigs again now and then.

In the end , i don't think anet really meant to play fast and loose with the economy - i have never seen them do something quite like that before.

I think it was just a glitch or programing error that released pigs in fortunes that were supposed to be released only at the end festival.

Hey - mistakes happen - but a little communication would be nice if that is what really happened.

In any case, if it was a glitch, anet, please let us know and then we can move on

Eli Rela · Feb 18, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

I agree with some points made in this thread. Rollerbeetle race is nice. But rewards for quests could be better and there could be more quests. Also chefs could give much better rewards for all that hard farming. 1 token per ingredient is laughable. Rewards themselves are useless (IMHO), but mask and pig are nice.
Festival in whole I think came out OK, I would rate it at 6/10

garethporlest18 · Feb 18, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

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Originally Posted by Silly Warrior

I'll admit, I laughed out loud in my chair for about 5 minutes, after I got the pig everyone had been obsessing about. Then I went and sold it in LA for 20k.
Taking advantange of those who don't know better? Yeah, but thats how the world works.

Now with these new piggies, you won't be able to go into any district any pull out a mini. At first they were a show of wealth, but now anyone, literally can have one.

Now, I did all of the quests, I had some fun with the rock paper scissors, and I had fun with the fireworks, but I didn't obsess over the event, especially the chefs like others did.

I'll admit, the Chefs rewards are beyond lame, but that didn't matter to me, because at the event today I got a cool hat, a minipet, and Its ALL FREE.

Anet doesn't have to do these events, they do it to make you happy, think of the POSITIVE of this event. You don't need to be complaining and obsessing over it like an over-complusive nerd.

I had fun at this event, I spent a couple good hours on it, and a couple on roller beetle racing, it was a GREAT EVENT, perhaps the best for me yet!

To say that its the worst event ever, is to say that you have no respect for the company that made the game, and is providing this on their own time for free!

I really do pity the guy who made this thread, for being such a horrible customer, even though he didn't get everything he wanted, it was still a FREE EVENT, WE DON'T PAY A SUBSCRIPTION TO GET THIS!

So some things happened bad at the event. It was free event and plenty of cool new stuff happened this weekend. Think on the positive.

Get over it.

I'd rather have no event, then a boring finale to an event, thanks. But see I'm not going to bow down to them, because I don't have to pay for it. If I didn't have it, it wouldn't bother me either way. Thing is, they have the power to do a much better finale as they've shown us in the past and this time I don't know what went wrong. It seems like they keep going downhill in my eyes..as a company, I've yet to see something they bring out in the past 2 months be amazing. I know they can I'm just waiting.

Jamison0071 · Feb 18, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

I'd rather have no event, then a boring finale to an event, thanks.

Well thats your opinion, I actually had alot of fun in the event and so did many other people. With a thread like this, who knows if Anet with bother with another event....

Kook~NBK~ · Feb 18, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

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Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey

[B]Firstly these Lunar Tokens, which can be achieved by a variety of easy means, can either be traded 3v1 or excruciatingly used to play S/P/R 100s of times, for these Lunar Fortunes. The S/P/R idea is alright, takes more time but gives a better return rate. Makes sense. However these fortunes are ridiculous. About a 1-2% chance of getting a Mini Pig which is the ONLY worthwhile reward from them. Useless fireworks, crappy gold rewards or pathetic blessings are the only other options. Not even soemthing for drunkard or sweet tooth title.

It's a FESTIVAL - A time to play and have a bit of fun! It's not about making money & getting rich, which seems to be your main concern with this whole post. (Crappy gold rewards? Hey, 100g is 100g!). As it turns out, they probably should not have given min-pigs out as rewards of the fortunes. That's the only beef you have with this that I can get on board with.

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So basically their only point is for a Mini Pig. These have been seen as -relatively- rare items, they look cute, and sold for about 30k. But then the real joke. Every single person in a "winning" (all) district gets a Mini Pig. Every single person. All that time spent getting fortunes, all those hours doing S/P/R- wasted. I pity those who bought tokens, fortunes or a Mini Pig. What the hell is the point of a Mini Pig everyone has? Towns are going to be literally crawling with these things.

The mini-pig should never have been awarded the "Gold" status. That being said, it happens every time something new is put into the game. People set the price ridiculously high and as they become more common-place the prices tank. An IDS would sell for 60 - 70K when they first came out. Now? 15K tops. Mini-pets started out commanding big bucks, too. Then they tanked. then, they allowed them to be shown in town. Boom! Prices in many cases doubled within hours! I can give you dozens of examples like that.

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Personally I spent about 2 hours getting those damn tokens, and then S/P/R for another 2 hours. I got a Mini Pig on about my 200th token, and was happy. Nevermind the fact I spent about 60k (then) worth of tokens or so much time, I got my piggy. You can imagine how I felt when they were handed out freely. ALL rewards from the tokens are worthless now, meaning the tokens are worthless themselves, and they are the only thing driving this festival.

Sorry you had to go through all that work just to get something that you probably would've gotten in the end, anyway. That being said, It's evident that you're more interested in the market value of the event items than the fun of shooting them off. So I'll give you this: Who knows how much fireworks will sell for during the 4th-of-July?

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Also the chefs... what a ridiculous idea. I can only thank those who either dedicated hours farming or a lot of money buying these items. For each item they handed to a chef they got 1 token. ONE! they might have got 100 and it still wouldnt have been worth it. I pity them.

Again, there's those dollar signs showing up in your agenda. Some people did it just for the challenge of getting every item. I do think that people who went out and got at least 1 of every item deserves some sort of special reward for doing the work to get there.

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Rollerbeetle is a lot of fun, and a good idea, there's no denying that, even if it is slightly ruined by lag. However now the rewards for winning races are useless and the top 100 times are so dam good I don't know if I can bring myself to do anything more. The only really worthwhile thing from this is presumably the item to gbe given to those skilled people who got a top time, although judging by the rest of the festival that item will be a mini pig.

Yep, they're fun. And yep, it takes a bit of luck to get a good time, I've only gotten the superbeetle thing once in about 15 races. My highest score was around 440K. But they're meant to be challenging, so no complaints here. Hopefully, it won't be a mini-pig for the high-scorers.

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The only thing I take away from this festival is my sugary blue drinks for my sweet tooth title from hours of S/P/R. I can't get over the mini pig fiasco.

The last thing we need is another title! But I'm glad you had fun with the R/P/S game. And yeah, the mini-pig should have been better thought out.

garethporlest18 · Feb 18, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

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Originally Posted by Jamison0071

Well thats your opinion, I actually had alot of fun in the event and so did many other people. With a thread like this, who knows if Anet with bother with another event....

I didn't say I had no fun in the event, I said the finale was boring. They always have good finale's and this one was a major let down. I don't care about making money, I don't care about pigs, I don't care about free items, I care about awesome endings that they always have and didn't bring that to the table this time.

Going for gifts was fun, running from grasps to turn in orbs was fun, I had more fun standing around in a circle doing nothing then chasing a pig around for no reason.

SerenitySilverstar · Feb 18, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by Lamont Shadow

In any case, if it was a glitch, anet, please let us know and then we can move on

A glitch or change would have been fixed by an Update. I remember there was one "There is a new build of GW" message very early on (within the first couple of hours of the event starting), but no other update since then.

Jamison0071 · Feb 18, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Going for gifts was fun, running from grasps to turn in orbs was fun, I had more fun standing around in a circle doing nothing then chasing a pig around for no reason.

To tell you the truth I actually prefered the no gift spawning (but yes I agree the orb running was so fun). Because with the gift spawning it just turned into present camping, 'ZOMG SOME NOOB IS STEALING MY PRESENTS!!shiftone!!' being spammed ><

I prefer the fact we get stocked up with presents as soon as the event is over so we can run around aimlessly.

(remember, most other events just gave you the hat then let you fight others for presents, this one gave you presents and a hat (and a minipet xD) then let you actually run around having a fun time)